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Author Topic: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?  (Read 8591 times)

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Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« on: August 27, 2007, 08:25:40 PM »
Well is it a cake or a biscuit? ???

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2007, 08:52:22 PM »
Sad I know but I know the official answer to this one.

McVitie''s classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by HM Customs and Excise in court. This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit. The question which had to be answered was what criteria should be used to class something as a cake or biscuit. McVitie''s defended the classification of Jaffa Cakes as a cake by producing a giant Jaffa Cake to illustrate that their Jaffa Cakes were simply mini cakes.
They also argued that the distinction between cakes and biscuits is simply that cakes go hard when stale, whereas biscuits go soft. It was demonstrated that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale and McVitie''s won the case.

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2007, 09:03:39 PM »
Now i think thats the best post ever on the forum - I love trivia like that!!

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2007, 09:07:42 PM »
So do I get an extra star for that??

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2007, 09:10:33 PM »
Kalkanfan - did the question arise because cakes or biscuits are taxable?  ie one is and one isn''t!

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2007, 09:14:19 PM »
Cakes were zero rated for VAT purposes as they were confectionary whereas biscuits did not qualify for zero rateing.  Customs tried to argue that Jaffa cakes were chocolate coated biscuits and therefore subject to the standard rate of VAT.

Those of you that would like to see the full reasoning behind this decision can view it here:

http://www.educationet.org/messageboard/posts/38833.html
« Last Edit: August 27, 2007, 09:18:40 PM by kalkanfan »

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2007, 09:16:32 PM »
Best JaffaCake post awarded!  ;D

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2007, 09:22:11 PM »
I am honoured to have been given such a truly unique award.  I can imagine having some difficulty explaining the significance of this award to the staff at the Meldi Hotel in just over two weeks time!

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2007, 09:24:07 PM »
You''ll have to take a box with you to so they can join the great debate.

PS.  Have sent some EnjoyKalkan stickers over with my son today and he''s just texted me to say they''ve arrived safely and are "lovin it" already!!!

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2007, 09:25:15 PM »
Im sure they will have great delight calling you a prize Jaffa!  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2007, 09:41:35 PM »
Excuse me, but I started this post!!! I have tried to establish if Jaffa cakes go hard when they are stale, but have always  eaten them all long before then.
So how about a few other trivial type questions?

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2007, 09:43:34 PM »
Are you gunning for the Queen of Trivia award JoanH?!  :D

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2007, 10:20:53 PM »
Which supermarket sells jaffacakes, and if not, what an export opportunity - instead of the cotton wool sponge cakes at 5pm jaffacakes and Liptons!

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2007, 06:35:31 AM »
Thank you for getting my mouth watering for Jaffa Cakes- that you cannot buy here in Turkey! ;)

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2007, 01:42:58 PM »
Forgive me, but I am suffering from hard cheese and sour grapes!!!
I thought the question would start a lively but fun thread and am disappointed because Kalkanfan spiked my guns with the answer, and then got the credit.
I will sulk with a box of Jaffa Cakes and I will not be sharing them with any one ''cos they are mine, all mine.!!!!!

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2007, 01:49:02 PM »
5 mins on the lips........a life time on the hips!! now will you share? ;D
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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2007, 02:55:51 PM »
No, they are mine, now leave me alone while I get fat and sulk. :(

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2007, 04:27:57 PM »
JoanH - you enjoy your Jaffa Cakes, please do not share them - hate the things, should be banned ;D
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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2007, 05:05:20 PM »
I agree with DRBD. I''d sooner eat the hard cheese and sour grapes!

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Re: Jaffa Cakes - A cake or a biscuit?
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2007, 07:53:21 PM »
JoanH

I thought giving the correct answer would entitle me to take the credit for it - it was never my intention to stifle what could have been an interesting debate   :D.  What are the chances of a member of this forum knowing the officially recognised answer to your question?  If I know the answer to your next teaser I promise not to chip in straight away.


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